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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:42 pm
MrPharmer2012 wrote:Jay another question, for the rods, what length do I need to cut them down to, the 400mm is way to long what is correct length needed, Also the links posted for the shaft and the triangular pieces with bearings to hold it dont fit, so either the supplier messed up or it is the wrong link

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What links are we talking about? I'm not aware of posting links to any specific supplier.
The linear rails are 333mm in my 3D model so I would suggest to cut them just a little bit shorter.
Anyway, all the measurements can be taken from the 3D preview. There are some very powerful tools to help you understand whole assembly.





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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:48 pm
Oh wow that will be very helpful, I am gonna have to try that tool out. ty for the response
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:20 pm
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:32 am
Hey jay I am putting my build together and the brackets for the motors from the FFB 2 joystick dont match watch your drawing shows, Did you cut these to a different size and drill holes to match the brackets? If so can you upload a template or isolate the two brackets in your drawing for download so I can load to cad and have a new bracket cut? I would post a picture but i dont know how to host one and dont see a direct upload option, you can email me cscott@pacificmedicalcare.net and I can share my build to show you what brackets look like
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:36 am
Also the gear printed for the potentiometer the hole is much too large for the pot, did you modify this and how did you attach, since it is a round shaft so that it stays true
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:02 pm
So i understand this correctly as far the cabling for this, you are using all the same parts from the sidewinder? or do i need additional control boards? and which ones. i have read most of the comments here and i dont see anything about wiring all this up
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:55 pm
MrPharmer2012 wrote:Hey jay I am putting my build together and the brackets for the motors from the FFB 2 joystick dont match watch your drawing shows,  Did you cut these to a different size and drill holes to match the brackets?  If so can you upload a template or isolate the two brackets in your drawing for download so I can load to cad and have a new bracket cut?  I would post a picture but i dont know how to host one and dont see a direct upload option, you can email me cscott@pacificmedicalcare.net and I can share my build to show you what brackets look like


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Sorry for the lack of docs but I also have limited time to dedicate to this plus I'm trying to get v2 rolling as well.

The original motor brackets have been modified. You can isolate them in the 3D preview to see where about you need to cut them. It doesn't have to be spot on precise though.
Only the Pitch axis bracket needs additional three holes. One of them is where the bigger cog wheel pin was pressed and the other two can be located just by aligning your plastic printed bracket to the metal one, marking and drilling the two remaining holes accordingly.

I hope this helps
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:03 pm
MrPharmer2012 wrote:Also the gear printed for the potentiometer the hole is much too large for the pot,  did you modify this and how did you attach,  since it is a round shaft so that it stays true

You need to take this with a pinch of salt as my printer does all inner diameters about 0.8mm smaller so I made this particular wheel little too lose perhaps.
Anyway, I fixed the cogwheel to the pot shaft with two-part epoxy resin. Make sure you get some of it into the grove at the end of the shaft for stronger grip.

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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:16 pm
pkpierce wrote:So i understand this correctly as far the cabling for this,  you are using all the same parts from the sidewinder?  or do i need additional control boards?  and which ones.  i have read most of the comments here and i dont see anything about wiring all this up

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Yes, everything used in this build comes from Sidewinder 2 joystick. Only the Pitch potentiometer has been replaced with 5 turn Bochen pot due to the difficulties introduced when trying to reduce 150mm of linear motion into 30 degrees of rotation.

As for wiring, I think all is the same as in the Sidewinder except for the Roll pot which has been reversed. You can simply check this in windows.

The documentation for v1 Yoke is not yet complete so please refer to the forum, my email or youtube chat if you get stuck. I'm too busy to finish needed tutorials right now but others may be able to help as well.

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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:48 am
Hey, i started to build this nice yoke, but is there a list where the size, length for the screws ? And how many
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:34 am
Funky wrote:Hey, i started to build this nice yoke, but is there a list where the size, length for the screws ? And how many

Yes, under this thread, one page back.
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:50 pm
I completed Yoke, and have some problems with wiring and electronics
Bcs when i cover sensors both engines start to spin, i don't know where to wire 5 turn potentiometar(maybe i wire bad) i know it is second potentiometar but this have 5 contacts and that removed 3 contact.. and can you explain this

"As for wiring, I think all is the same as in the Sidewinder except for the Roll pot which has been reversed. You can simply check this in windows."

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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:46 am
Caldari wrote:I completed Yoke, and have some problems with wiring and electronics
Bcs when i cover sensors both engines start to spin, i don't know where to wire 5 turn potentiometar(maybe i wire bad) i know it is second potentiometar but this have 5 contacts and that removed 3 contact.. and can you explain this

"As for wiring, I think all is the same as in the Sidewinder except for the Roll pot which has been reversed. You can simply check this in windows."

Thank you

The 5 Turn have only 3 contacts not 5 (2 of them are together)
I guess your roll and pitch are reversed, but its not a big deal.

Try only to plugin the USB cabel, dont use the power cable yet.
At the windows u can see if it was reversed, if so start the flightsim and go to FSUIPC at the calibration axes and u can put both of em to reversed wich should be now the right way.
After u have done this, plugin the power cabel and ur yoke should middel it self.
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:39 pm
i plug just USB cabel and in windows  look good not reversed, managed to get wiring from youtube video for potentimetar and now that is ok.
Problem is Z encoder( that on sensor PCB) wich get crazy on calibration (vibrating) and when i connect all cables and tuch sensor both engines spin ( i removed belts  bcs i wont to damage gears), on sensor tuch should Yoke home, BUt i maybe managed to burn some component on PCB
bcs i tuch one condensatro, and wires from big potentiometar short conected for short period (ground and contact) Now  trying to find out..
Control leds light more bright when sensors activated ...
Any sugestion?
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:01 pm
If u only plugged in the usb cabel the motors cant start spinning !! They only work if u put in the power cabel. The roll potentimeter are 100% reversed when u dont wired it new.
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:38 pm
When is only USB cabel its ok i can move Yoke in all direction and calibrate it. just not Z encoder.
But when i conect power cabel, than motors spining.
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:04 pm
Ok, than i dont know ! Maybe the admin can help, it looks like ur pots are reversed, the yoke try to middle ur roll and pitch axis, than he try to rotat ur motors to keep the axis middled
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:18 am
Sorry guys, I was quite busy with other stuff.
I'll take some photos, upload schematics and explain how to connect all the electronics when I get back from work tonight.

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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:29 pm
working on it boys..
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:23 pm
Here we go..

Please, keep in mind that the wire colors you'll see here are IDENTICAL (if not stated otherwise) to the original Sidewinder's color coding!

Here's the PCB layout to begin with.

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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:25 pm
POTENTIOMETERS



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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:30 pm
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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:39 pm
IR sensor "breaker"


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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:46 pm
and finally "pitch" bracket prep work..



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Re: FFB Yoke v1 Beta

on Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:52 pm
That should do for now
  let me know how u doing..

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